ExCO Meeting July 1, 1998
          
     The meeting was held at the Pell Library at the University of Rhode 
     Island.  Attending were:  P. Wiebe, L. Madin, R. Beardsley, D. 
     Mountain, K. Wishner, T. Durbin, J. Bisagni.  D. Busch also attended.
          
     Peter reviewed the agenda:
          
             -   Plan a meeting of Phase III investigators, as
                        requested by the Program Managers;
             
-  Continue planning for the Data Workshop in
                        September.
          
     No other items were tabled for the agenda.
          
     
1. Phase III Meeting:
          
     A list of potential Phase III PI's and proposal titles, supplied by 
     the program managers, was distributed.  Phil Taylor indicated that the 
     list is not a definitive list, nor are the budgets that have been 
     discussed with the PI's.  The list was reviewed and broken out by 
     theme: northeast peak dynamics/crossover, southern flank tidal mixing 
     front, modeling, broad scale. (In some cases, the titles given below 
     have been abbreviated.)
          
     
Process -
  
  
        
             - NE Peak:
             
                - Beardsley and Limeburner - Frontal exchange over
                        eastern GB
               
-  Townsend et al. - Origins of cod on Georges Bank:
                    contributions from the Scotian shelf
          
               
- (also some proposals listed under Southern Flank
                        which will address both regions)
              
 
- Southern Flank:
             
               -  Bucklin and McGillicuddy - Maintenance of
                        Psuedoclananus populations
               
-  Gifford, Belkin, Sieraki - Cross-frontal
                        processes and Calanus diet
               
-  Hebert and Barth        - Cross-frontal fluxes
                        and mixing
               
-  Wishner                 - Cross-frontal exchange
                        of zooplankton
                            
                
- (the Gifford/Hebert/Wishner proposals are
                 integrated - and may be both NE Peak and 
                 southern flank)
          
                
- Houghton - Cross frontal exchange dye study
                           (both NE Peak & s. flank)
          
                
- Ledwell, Churchill - Cross frontal exchange
                           (by dye and drifters)
          
                
- Lough, et al. - Tidal front entrainment of larval
                                fish
          
                
- Madin et al. - Predation: role of tidal processes
                                and small Predator species  
                                (includes broad-scale, lab and mesocosm
                                 work; field work at both southern flank
                                 and NE peak)
          
                
- Ohman, Durbin, Runge - Frontal processes and
                                copepod population dynamics (includes
                                broad scale survey sampling and NE peak)
          
                
- Schlitz, Chen, Lough - Phy/bio processes at the
                                tidally mixed front
             
 
- General:
             
                     - Bisagni - Satellite estimates of mixing
             
 
Modelling -
     	
              
             - Franks and Chen - Modeling plankton and fish in the
                        tidal-mixing front
          
             
- Lynch et al. - Real-time data assimilation
          
             
- Werner and Runge - Productivity of Calanus and
                        fluctuations in larval growth and survival
              
Broad Scale -
             
             - Brink, Irish, Beardsley, Limeburner - Long term
                        moorings/drifters
          
            
-  Durbin - Zooplankton distribution and abundance
          
             
- Fairbanks and Houghton - Modes of circulation/mixing
                        from oxygen isotopes
          
             
- Miller  - Growth and development of Calanus
          
            
-  Mountain et al. - Broad scale ichthyoplankton,
                        hydrography and nutrient studies
          
             
- Wiebe - Broad-scale acoustic patterns of zooplankton
                        and nekton
              
Programmatic -
             
             - Wiebe and Groman - Program services and data
                        management
              
     One of the questions that needs to be answered at the PI meeting is 
     "What components are not being funded that other PI's are depending 
     on?"  Another question is "What science that will be important to the 
     program as a whole is not being funded?"  In discussion, one potential 
     missing component was identified as VPR-type sampling to rapidly 
     measure zooplankton for estimating cross frontal exchange.  This 
     sampling might augment one of the currently identified frontal 
     studies.  A second was zooplankton conditions in the Gulf of Maine 
     that are important to the development of the Georges Bank populations.
 
         
     Indications from the program managers are that the tentative budgets 
     currently on the table are about $1.1 million over what the program 
     has available.  They want to have PI input before making final 
     decisions. One approach mentioned to dealing with a short fall in the 
     first year would be postponing the field work a year. EXCO didn't feel 
     that the 
     postponing was a viable approach.  A second approach would be to 
     eliminate a component of the program - e.g., the north east peak work. 
     A third would be for the budget of each funded proposal to be further 
     reduced.
  
        
     The PI Meeting may want to focus discussion on the different regional 
     experiments - e.g., the southern flank studies and the NE peak 
     studies. More information about the specifics of the shortfall (how 
     much, which years) may be needed from the program managers before the 
     PI meeting could explore all of the options to solve the short fall.  
     In addition to the budgeting issue, the meeting will be the first time 
     that the 
     different PI's will be able to hear and see what the other PI's in the 
     program are planning.  This will be important to final planning of the 
     ship scheduling.
   
          
     
2. Data Workshop:
          
     It was decided to postpone further planning of the data workshop until 
     the next meeting.
    
          
     
3. Additional Topic:
          
     Ted Durbin raised the issue of continuing using the MOC-10 on broad 
     scale survey cruises.  His feeling is that the catches are so low that 
     the samples don't warrant the time and effort required to collect 
     them. Comparisons are being made between the catches of the MOC-1 vs 
     the MOC-10 could indicate if the MOC-1 is as efficient as the MOC-10 
     for different species.  The issue will be revisited when these 
     comparisons are available - perhaps at the data workshop.
          
     The meeting adjourned at 1 PM.
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