NOPP P.I.
Meeting Minutes
November 24, 1998

Present: Rollie Barnaby (UNH), Ann Bucklin, chair ( UNH), Ken Ekstrom (MIT), Cliff Goudey (MIT Sea Grant), Bob Groman (WHOI), Dave Hosom (WHOI), David Mountain (NMFS), Joe Novello (Alpha-Tron), Craig Pendleton (NAMA - Portland Fish Exchange), Peter Wiebe (WHOI), Gary Williams (Clearwater Inst.),

Absent: Hartley Hoskins (WHOI)

Guest: Vince Segowicz (NWS, Silver Spring)

A meeting of the Project LENA investigators was held November 24, 1998 at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. The meeting began at 10:00am.

Ann distributed an agenda for the meeting and asked Bob to be the meeting recorder. Ann also distributed

Discussion of system design; operating system; ruggedization, etc.

Ken gave a demonstration of his PC user interface. His demo was done on a PC running Windows NT but can run on Windows 98. It makes use of the CAP'N demo software which he downloaded from their web site as well as the MAPTECH demo charts. Screen resolution of 600 x 800, reduced to 640 x 480 for Windows 95 is acceptable. The program's options appear as pull-down menu choices at the top of the screen. Ken mentioned that MAPTECH offers a Value Added Developer (VAD) program for businesses that want to encorporate their charts in their applications. Also, the navitation packages, like CAP'N, allow hooks into their packages for real-time navigation input, as well as sensor input, such as temperature. We speculated whether all of our sensor values could be hooked into such a package. (It was noted that water column data could not be displayed this way, but that these data are not likely to be useful to the fisherman.) Based on informal surveys, the CAP'N package is popular in Rockland (??) and the WinPLOT package is popular in Portland.

The issue of software updates was discussed. Most software vendors distribute their software on CD-ROM or via the Internet. This implied that our hardware platform should probably contain a CD-ROM drive.

This precipitated a discussion about our strategic approach for how our system would be added to a boat: as a separate computer system or as an add-on to existing hardware. These two choices offer the following pros and cons:

Limitations and other factors relating to using the system involve:

Related to these issues was whether this system would be "available" to every boat who wanted it, both the "little guy" and the "big guy". The opportunity would be there for everyone but the participants really need to "buy into" the program, including the fundamental and underlying scientific goals. This would likely be difficult for someone who wanted to be only "passively invovled" in the program; they really need to be fully engaged in it. Since it is hoped that the commercial version of the system would prove to provide a competitive edge to those fishermen who use it, it is reasonable to guess that all sucessful fishermen would eventually want it.

Ken asked for input on the look and feel of his user interface and, especially, how the data profiles should look (i.e. the "visualization of the profiles".) We also need the feedback from the Survey on this and whatever else the fishermen should would be useful (e.g. downloading of processed data; display of verticle profiles; and downloading of global images and other bit maps.)

Ken will provide Bob with either images or text showing the menu choices so that Bob an create a Web-based mockup of the system so the all the PI's can more easily provide feedback to Ken.

Operating System Requirements

We discussed what operating system environment would be required. Ken said that in his view it requires either NT or Windows 98, with a preference for NT since it offers a more stable environment, less likely to crash for unknown reasons. Ken noted that Barrie Walden at WHOI was working on browser capabilities to the Athena software, and that NOAA's Dennis Shields had ported the Athena software to NT. There was some confusion about what the Athena software provided us and whether we couldn't write our own. Ken and Dave H. provided the following background.

A large majority agreed to base our system on the NT platform given that it afforded the required multi-tasking environment; offered improved resistance to crashes; and seemed to be the default PC Windows platform in the foreseeable future since the Windows 95/98 and Windows NT operating environments were merging within the next several years.

Sensor Selection

We discussed what sensors to deploy on the test platforms. A full IMET suite would involve seven (7) modules, including those to measure heat flux for climate research. It was agreed that this was not necessary nor would it fit within our budget constraints. We agreed to collect those data parameters identified as "priority 1" at the August 7th PI meeting namely wind speed/direction, barometric pressure, air temperature, sea surface temperature, ship's position, and UTC date/time of observation. Dave H. offered to provide a single sensor module capabable of collecting these parameters. We also discussed a less costly instrument package, with lower resolution. It was noted that RM Young, for example, has a sensor package that collects barometric pressure, humidity, and air temperature for $5,000, but, of course, it does not offer the accuracy or build in self calibration capabilities of the IMET sensors. These instruments fall under Gary's area. He will cost out two sets of sensors to collect wind speed and direction, air temperature, and barametric pressure. (Ship's position and UTC date/time of observation should be available from the satellite navigation Inmarsat-C box.) Dave H. will look into the cost for a sea surface temperature sensor, for both wood and steal hulls, and prepare a budget.

Net Instrumentation

Gary reported that he is looking into radio frequency (RF) transceivers for the net instrumentation. He is also working on the interface.

Satellite Transceiver and Data Transmission

Bob said that an Inmarsat-C unit would be available from Keith von der Heydt (WHOI) but only for the short term. He will follow up with Keith since several present felt it would be useful to have it available, even for a short time. He will also contact Inmarsat for a free unit, given our project's goals.

It was also noted that data compression will be desireable as the cost of data transmissions is a major cost factor (at $0.01 per character). Ship and net sensor data are planned for transmission every hour, although fish catch data need only be transmitted twice a day. Given the format of the IMET sensor data, it is likely that we will have to write software to reformat these data before transmission.

Hardware Platform Decision

We agreed that the data acquision, plotting, and transmission computing hardware requires two ports for GPS input (one for us and one for the naviation software), and one RS-485 port for the Athena instrument sensors. It was noted that WHOI uses eight (8) ports and NOAA used 16, 32, 48, etc. ports. A PCMCIA port could be used to provide the additional ports.

A large majority agreed that a generic, NT based, PC laptop would provide the necessary ports, speed and screen resolution. We agreed that Joe would continue his investigations of a ruggedized computer system and also provide the project with two such laptops. Cliff and Ken will provide Joe with more detailed specifications for these laptops.

Gear Ownership

There was a discussion about whether the fisherman could keep the equipment we provide to them. Ann reviewed the funding agency's policies on gear ownership. Generally, the funding agency retains ownership of any equipment purchased under a grant, but typically allows the original purchaser to keep the equipment as long as it is used in the same spirit as the original grant. The original purchaser is accoutable for the equipment; it cannot "dissapear".

Invited Speaker: Vince Segowicz (NWS, Silver Spring)

Vince Segowicz, Marine Observation Program Leader, from the National Weather Service, gave an excellent and down to earth review of the NWS' Volunteer Observing Ships (VOS) program. His first task is to convince ship operators to send in data, as a Port Meteorological Observer (PMO). These content and format of these observations are well documented by international agreements. They are don four times per day, at 0600, 1200, 1800, 2400 UTC. The ship operator must call in information via one of several known methods (typically by radio) in a timely manner. The data are received at D.C., quality controlled, and then forwarded to marine files and then archived in Ashville, NC. The data are encorporated into the weather forecasts, four times a day (synoptical forecast) and are used later in climatic research. The data are also copied for global distribution for international and national research. For example, they are used to help create pilot charts of historical climate data. Vince noted that 3056 land based observations are available to make the Boston forecast, but there are only 300 observations (stations) available for a forecast 10 miles out to sea, 30 observations available for a forecast 100 miles out to sea, and only 3 observations for a forecase greater than 100 miles out to sea. (He didn't care for the weatherman's statement that bad weather "went harmlessly out to sea".)

Vince reported on his agency's efforts to automate obseration reports. In the 1970's they tried a $70,000 GOOS based system that worked. It reported barametriec pressure, air temperature, etc. However, it required a lot of maintainence and was too expensive to deploy in large numbers.

He said that he would be interested in receiving timely information (e.g. air temperature to a tenth of a degree), in their format, four times a day and would pay for the cost of data transmission. He also offered to provide Ann with a list of potential customers. He mentioned Courtney Coleman, Bethesda, Maryland (@comsac.com).

Web Site Enhancements

Ann asked that people think about what information could be brought over to our public web site to beef it up. She would like to add more pictures and diagrams, including a system block diagram; pictures of boats to be used for the system testing; and a picture of the instruments and Inmarsat-C unit.

Topics for Our Next Meeting

Topics for our next meeting, scheduled for Tuesday, January 5th, 1999 at MIT, include

Possible visitors for future meetings include Beth Horton (or Jay Bernett sp?) from the Navy Oceanographic Office, Bob Thompson from NWS; or an NMFS representative to discuss assessment, historical fishing information and the vessel location system and logbook requirements.

The meeting adjourned at 3:40pm.


Submitted by: R. Groman
November 23, 1998