NOPP P.I. Meeting Minutes
February 28, 2000

FleetLink PI Meeting on February 28, 2000 at MIT Sea Grant

Present: R. Barnaby, A. Bucklin, K. Ekstrom, C. Goudey, R. Groman, D. Holsom, D. Mountain, P. Wiebe, G. Williams.

Absent: C. Pendelton

Guests: Peter and Linda Detweiller

We began the meeting, at 10:35am, with updates from the FleetLink Partners.

Cliff

The installation of the satellite system on Craig's vessel was delayed, but it is going in soon.

Cliff discussed the PinOak option for telemetry from/to the vessel. It uses the single sideband transceiver and rides on top of the signal. It would be much less expensive than Inmarsat C. We will learn more about the system later today when we hear from Peter Detweiller.

Gary

He delivered a completed unit to Cliff and Ken at MIT, the development system used for testing. A second unit will go to Craig for his boat. He is still preparing the net link. He will be ready with another system for a second vessel when the time comes. There will also be a fouth system, set aside as a backup system, which could go out on a third vessel. However, there was concern about not having a backup system ready in case a problem developed with one of the other systems.

Ken

He has done test transmissions hourly. Each Athena hourly transmission is about 10,000 bytes and would cost about $2,400 per day. We discussed the advisibility of compressing the data before transmission and Ken agreed to do it. Bob will modify the receiving software to decompress it as necessary.

We discussed some other posibilities to save transmission costs. For example, we could turn off Athena data transmission on the second test vessel and only send the tow and catch data. We could also replace hourly data with hourly averages. However, several people thought that during this demonstration phase, we should show off all the capabilities of the system.

Ken is refining the formats based on feedback from Bob and he is doing some PinOak testing at the same time.

All necessary computer hardware has been purchased. The newer units have touch sensitive screens. Ken speculated that the touch screen could replace the keyboard for data entry.

We had some further discussions about where the data would ultimately be sent to. For example, the National Weather Service (NWS) is interested in getting hourly values (not averages). However, Bob's initial conversation with them implied that they were not yet ready to accept data directly in digital form, such as via e-mail or ftp. Rollie asked what the Fish Coops would get. Gary suggested contacting the GTS people as they already deal with sending data to the NWS. [Gary contacted them after the meeting and put them in contact with Bob.] It was also suggested that we contact Argos since they have links to NWS as well.

Demonstration and Testing Strategry

We discussed several ways to fully test the FleetLink system. (See some comments above as well.) Most felt that all the systems that go to sea should be fully equivalent and that each boat takes full advantage of the system and all its sensors. As for the discussion of whether all data are transmitted versus just averages, ultimately we will have to map the capabilities of the system to the needs of the users. A proposed list of action items was outlined as follows:

  1. All boats go to the same area to verify getting similar data results
  2. All boats in the water at the same time, but in different areas to verify that the system can handle multiple transmissions
  3. NMFS wants data. Do they want it now?
  4. Send data to the National Weather Service in real time
  5. Prepare list of variables and their accuracies [see Data Fields Collected prepared by Bob].
  6. Contact Bob Weller at WHOI to see what data accuracies and data rates the NE Climate project would like to see. (Bob)
    [Here is his resonse:

    1 minute sample rate is what we do on buoys and ships.

    I am on the road but here is quick reply on accuracy/precision. Note that these are target accuracies to strive for, not what unfortunately is actually achieved in the field.

    quantity accuracy recording precision
    temperatures 0.01 deg C 0.001 deg C
    barometric pressure 0.1 mb 0.01 mb
    wind speed 2% 0.1 m/s
    wind direction 1 deg true 1 deg
    rel humidity 2% 0.1 %RH
    rain 1 mm/hr 0.1 mm/hr
    shortwave radiation 2% 1 watt/m²
    longwave radiation 2% 1 watt/ m²

  7. Test two way communication between the fishing vessel and Fish COOP.
  8. Complete gear-based testing and correlate with catch data
  9. Look into FleetLink as an alternatives to the BoatTraks system. What changes would be necessary to make them compatible. What are the governing regulations? (Bob)
  10. Look into the requirements for the data assimilative models. What data types and data frequency would they require?
  11. Analyze the impact on NWS's weather predictions after receiving accurate and timely data from sea. Provide feedback to the vessels by sending them weather maps.
  12. Contact Breck Owens or Jim Valdes (WHOI) about their experiences in the Orbcom project. They generated about 40Mbytes in six months. What were their costs? (Bob)

    [Jim Valdes said that the nominal rate for using the RF-based Orbcom system is $0.01/byte, or the same as Inmarsat C. There is a rumor that Orbcom will increase this to $0.03/byte. However, in their project they are charged a flat rate of $15 per month, but their data rates are much less than ours. To get the lowest rates, one needs to become a Value Added Reseller (VAR) and Jim is currently negotiating with Orbcom about this. He hopes to know in about 3 weeks what their rates will be. I've asked to find out what Orbcom would charge FleetLink for our data, exclusive of transmitting images. Jim also mentioned that the drifter people pay Argos $10 per day to transmit drifter data and they are looking into the Orbcom system as an alternative as well.]

  13. Revisit adding a fluorometer sensor. The problem is fouling of the biomass sensor. Contact SeaKeeper.

PinOak Digital Corporation, Peter Detweiller, president

Peter Detweiller provided a summary of his company's technology. He mentioned the following:

We noted that the system requires human intervention to initiate. Software would have to be written to make it run automatically. Selecting the best transmission frequency is not automatic and depends on the time of day.

Northeast Consortium Proposal and other Funding

We discussed the requirements of the Northeast Consortium proposal. Gary will follow up on this and submit a proposal with help from others.

The NOPP renewal is in about one year from now. We could submit a follow-on proposal then.

The next meeting will Monday, March 27, 2000, at Craig's boat in Portland.


Prepared by Bob Groman
Original: March 24, 2000